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clonek · Jul 06, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

At least you've gotten messages back. I've been waiting 5-6 hours without a single reply.

Shadowcast · Jul 06, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Like someone else mentioned, you can't complain about being unsafe in a plane, then whine about airport security procedures. Same principle.

Complainers may wanna re-evaluate priorities. Would you rather Anet just ignore the botting problem, turn the other cheek and allow the economy to go to crap even more? Don't you think they are doing the best they can to avoid targeting honest players, then fixing said accounts as soon as possible?

If you haven't done anything wrong and happen to be in the small percentage that got targeted, send a SINGLE email to them via the support page and they will fix it asap. So you can't play for a few hours.. big deal.

My Sweet Revenga · Jul 06, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matix411

If this turns into a case of hackers, and accounts are being deleted and that's why support can't find them, I'm going to flip.
What are they going to do to replace the countless hours of gameplay? The ridiculous amounts of money made and spent?
I never made that much, but it took a hell of a long time to save up either way.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.
I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING.

I need tea. Excuse me.

Well if they're like any heavy user networking company, they'll have a regular backup of all the data. Tape backup or a crapload of harddrives. Now the question would be, how long ago was this backup? If it was before the event, well I guess we're gonna have another dragon festival event in the upcoming weeks lol.

LoKi Foxfire · Jul 06, 2006, 02:57 AM // 02:57

I guess we will find out how many people are going to get banned because of this new anti-bot code....

Sorry guys, you will no longer be allowed to zone more than 2 times per minute or face instant account deletion and permabans. /sarcasm

Seriously though, I hate the botters for bringing another shitty situation around. I hope they work on the algorithm they're using or something so people don't get nicked accidentaly.

darkx · Jul 06, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02

oh man just reloaded my guild wars and i saw it started downloading some files, though it was the fix but no luck, still banned

sinican · Jul 06, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga

Well if they're like any heavy user networking company, they'll have a regular backup of all the data. Tape backup or a crapload of harddrives. Now the question would be, how long ago was this backup? If it was before the event, well I guess we're gonna have another dragon festival event in the upcoming weeks lol.

they actually have no obligation to any of us past to providing a working game cd and account

they do NOT charge monthly fees... which by all means also includes that my rantings on this banning thing has absolutely no standing...

to be completely honest thys could shut down the servers today... well as long as the cancelled all the preorders that havent shipped and provide refunds to all those who didnt get to create and accound after they purchased the game... well you get the point...

just hoping this doesnt start to get into what Anet "owes" anyone...

im just in a huff because of the lack of importance of the issue to some players (even those who where unjustly banned) and staff....

imo they should have just "claimed" the entire thing was a complete mistake and leave out that they where trying to bann bots and accidentally banned innocent people in the process reinstate everyone and fix the prob internally then start over...

now it has turned into the part where innocent people ( a lot of them) got banned because their bot prog or whatever cant tell the different between a bot and a normal player... this would have been better just left out and kept behind the scenes... plus undoing all the banns would have provided a FASTER response and allowed Anet to keep the error on the downlow so no one got a headsup until it was fixed and working correctly

Tachyon · Jul 06, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sword Of Cheese

sent a million e-mails

Perhaps they decided to keep you banned permanently due to your excessive spamming of their email servers!

Matix411 · Jul 06, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkx

oh man just reloaded my guild wars and i saw it started downloading some files, though it was the fix but no luck, still banned

haha

Downloading 124KB (112KB sec)
[Loading ...]

*Congratulations, you are now BANNED*

Shade the Black · Jul 06, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

This is for those of you who are feeling let down by A-net

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...61#post1643661

darkx · Jul 06, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

OH LORD 6 AGONIZING HOURS THEY'VE FINALLY REPLY AND RELEASED MY ACCOUNT, APPARRENTLY THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BLOCK ERROR, TIME FOR ME TO GW, I HOPE YOU ALL THAT GOT UNJUSTLY BANNED GET UNBANNED TOO.

sorry for the cap, im just so excited.

by the way this was the message i got from phield:

"Hello,

Thank you for contact Guild Wars Support. After reviewing the issue, it appears that your account was blocked in error. Your account is now released and you should be able to log in to Guild Wars. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Take care,
GM Phields
The Guild Wars Support Team"

Opeth11 · Jul 06, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

More emails = more time spent reading.

More time spent reading = less actions done in that amount of time.

Just one e-mail is enough.

death met · Jul 06, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

<--- unbanned.

Matix411 · Jul 06, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkx

OH LORD 6 AGONIZING HOURS THEY'VE FINALLY REPLY AND RELEASED MY ACCOUNT, APPARRENTLY THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BLOCK ERROR, TIME FOR ME TO GW, I HOPE YOU ALL THAT GOT UNJUSTLY BANNED GET UNBANNED TOO.

sorry for the cap, im just so excited.

by the way this was the message i got from phield:

"Hello,

Thank you for contact Guild Wars Support. After reviewing the issue, it appears that your account was blocked in error. Your account is now released and you should be able to log in to Guild Wars. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Take care,
GM Phields
The Guild Wars Support Team"

AHAHAHAH
SWEET MOTHER OF GOD
I GOT THE SAME MESSAGE!!
Oh eff this jive I'm SO going to play!!
Anyone who wants to add me and go on a murderous rampage feel free to do so,

Cheers all.

Props to ANet and PlayNC for sorting this out pronto.

Shadowcast · Jul 06, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Yes I agree, Anet is a company that has sold over two million copies and has no idea on how to address the botting situation. Thankfully, they regularly go on the forums to learn all the wonderful what-ifs of backup/restore procedures and data analysis, as the general public has more of an inkling in the area than an analyst with x years of experience and a myriad of skills and degrees.

The fact that I can only play GW twenty out of twentyfour hours of the day--and i may have to wait a whole six hours to play again--is tearing me apart inside. Time to flip some Dolyaks over and set them on fire!

/sarcasm

CyberNigma · Jul 06, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinican

they actually have no obligation to any of us past to providing a working game cd and account

they do NOT charge monthly fees... which by all means also includes that my rantings on this banning thing has absolutely no standing...

Dungeon Siege, Diablo I & II, Neverwinter Nights, and Half-Life 2 do not have monthly fees either, so this is nothing knew. The first three are RPGs, D1 & 2 even having lobbies of some sort, and the latter one is a source game (online). You may be confusing GW with one of the MMOs, of which it is not. They usually charge a monthly fee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinican

to be completely honest thys could shut down the servers today... well as long as the cancelled all the preorders that havent shipped and provide refunds to all those who didnt get to create and accound after they purchased the game... well you get the point...

I think you're over-simplifying. They could shutdown the servers immediately, but there would be fallout from people who bought the game as recently as the last 30 days. If they were able to show that the company did not sell them the product in good faith, then they could be awarded damages (refunds most likely). EULAs are a real gray area in most parts of the world right now, and class-actions cause some really unexpected (and sometimes braindead - aka mcdonalds) results. There is a reason other large games that require online hosting have given their customers (subscribing and non-subscribing games) a grace period before completely shutting down their servers. They like to stop selling product prior to cutting off access. They usually don't want to test the law in these situations. This is especiually true if the company or parent has other games that they wish to market to those same customers.

We've seen more and more virtual property lawsuits being filed over the past few years. It's a growing trend (lawsuits in my opinion are usually never a good trend) in a very gray area. A few of those lawsuits have been won in cases contrary to the EULA and against popular opinion of what would happen.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong on your points criticizing others about what they are owed. I am just tired of seeing the no monthly fee argument and really enjoy countering it. It's a complete cop-out. There are many games similar to GW (non-MMOs) that do not charge a monthly fee. In fact most of them don't. The big difference is most of those games don't offer backwards compatibility to their various chapters/editions like GW does. The towns are nothing more than lobbies that facilitate trading and teaming along with some occasional mini-games. It is (and has been said by ArenaNet) not an MMO, and since usually only MMOs charge fees, there is not a comparison.

DakAtak · Jul 06, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

To start off, I have been on guru for quite a while and have seen threads like this pop up from time to time. I don't like whiners and that is not my intention. My intention is to remind everyone out there that this is only a game and it can be taken from you in a moment's time.

I attempted to log into Guild Wars today and was absolutely shocked and saddened to receive information of a permanent ban. I truly consider myself an upstanding Guild Wars citizen and mature gamer. I have prided myself in being one who abides by the rules and promotes maturity in game. I have never once sworn, scammed, used an add-on program or bought or sold game items with real money. I can provide many game references to account for my integrity.

Throughout the past year, I have encouraged many friends and family members to purchase this game that I had fallen so in love with. I am a very family and friend oriented gamer and will be leaving many great acquaintances behind. I have always been extremely supportive of ANet and hope they do the right thing here. At any rate, the moral of the story is make sure you have a life outside of Guild Wars. Don't forget to spend some time with loved ones in the real world. That's what I will be doing from now on.

Take care and good luck,

Dak

EDIT: Please merge with the mass ban thread.

Curse You · Jul 06, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

Hmm, maybe this has something to do with this thread, the one about 5 spots down...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3071152

DakAtak · Jul 06, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Thank you for pointing that out. I was so upset I didn't think to check the forum for a similar post. Please feel free to merge or close.

The Great Al · Jul 06, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

wait what just happened...oh, i guess you made the thread not realizing you're going to be let back on

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Jul 06, 2006, 04:55 AM // 04:55

What horrible news today, I fear logging in a week from now(been away for about a month) and I know I wont be able to spell my mock japanese and mock russian character names...

I really hope we wont be required to tell them all character names with 100% correct spelling...

Just awful terrible news.